Jonathan Cattani is the founder and managing partner of CCG, a real estate and finance investment firm. He brings a unique approach to the company’s investment strategy to help ensure the goals of their investors are met, called the “Asymmetrical Returns” strategy.
Jonathan has an extensive background in investment and finance, working as a project manager for an experienced real estate investment group and as a licensed stock broker working with high-net-worth individuals. He is also no stranger to private money, having raised hundreds of thousands of dollars for investments.
Jonathan’s experience and depth of knowledge in the field make him a valuable source of insight for the audience of his own podcast, The Cash Flow Chronicles, and he comes on the show to share it with all of us!
Key Takeaways:
- Jonathan’s ventures in commercial real estate.
- One of your biggest assets when finding private lenders is having a large network.
- Private money can be used in all real estate niches.
- How can you ensure trust and security for your private lenders?
- Is it a good time to raise capital in this current economic uncertainty?
- Jonathan’s first private lender.
- When is the worst time to raise private money?
- What are Asymmetrical Returns?
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Connect with Jonathan:
Website: www.cattanicapitalgroup.com
Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-cash-flow-chronicles/
Free EBook “Is Commercial Real Estate Recession-Proof?”: investwithcattani.com
Timestamps:
0:01 – Raising Private Money with Jay Conner
1:32 – Today’s Guest: Jonathan Cattani
3:52 – Commercial Real Estate & Private Money
5:36 – Private Money Can Be Use In All Niches Of Real Estate
7:14 – Where To Find Private Lenders
11:42 – Security & Trust You Need To Give To Your Private Lenders
15:12– Jay’s Free Money Guide: https://www.JayConner.com/MoneyGuide
16:07 – Raising Private Money During Economic Uncertainty
22:22 – Jonathan Cattani’s First Private Money Lender
26:28 – The Worst Time To Raise Private Money Is When You Need It
29:20 – What Are Asymmetrical Returns?
31:11 – Connect with Jonathan Cattani: https://www.CattaniCapitalGroup.com
31:58 – Download Jonathan Cattani’s Free Ebook – “Is Commercial Real Estate Recession Proof?” at https://www.InvestWithCattani.com
How Jonathan Cattani Raised $650,000 In Private Money
[00:00:00] Jonathan Cattani:
Your network has money. So very early on when I got into the industry, I recognized right in my close network how much money I had access to. Now, as I’m sure we’ll get into, and as people have learned from your podcast, Being, seeing how much money is available in your network, I, in your close network as mine was, and actually getting access to that of two very different things.
[00:00:26]
Narrator: you are a real estate investor and are wondering how to raise and leverage private money to make more profit on every deal. Then you are in the right place on raising private money. We’ll speak with new-end seasoned investors to dissect their deals and extract the best tips and strategies to help you get the money because the money comes first.
Now, here’s your host, Jay Conner.
[00:01:04] Jay Conner:
Welcome to another episode of Raising Private Money. I’m your host, Jay Conner, also known as the Private Money Authority. And wow, have we got an amazing show lined up for you today? If you’ve been tuning into raising private money, you know this is where you learn how to get private money, how to get a lot of it, and how to never miss out on a deal.
[00:01:28] Jay Conner:
And how to be in control of your real estate investing. My guest today has got a really very unique approach and investment strategy that he calls asymmetrical returns. What in the world is that you’re getting ready to find out? He’s figured out why these alternative investments. Are creating true generational wealth, and I know you wanna learn exactly how that works.
[00:01:54] Jay Conner:
In addition, he’s the host of an amazing podcast as well that he calls the Daily Real Estate Podcast. The Cash Flow Chronicles. The reason I know it’s so amazing is that I was a guest on his show last week. On top of all this, he has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars in private money to boot.
[00:02:16] Jay Conner:
After this, you’re going to meet my guest, Mr. Johnny Cattani.
[00:02:30] Jay Conner:
And ladies and gentlemen, here’s Johnny. I’ve been wanting to say that like Ed McMahon for decades. Hey Johnny, welcome to the show
[00:02:39] Jonathan Cattani:
Hey, thanks, Jay. Great to be here. ,
[00:02:43] Jay Conner:
It’s great to have you. And man, didn’t I have an amazing time on your podcast last week? Wow. What an amazing interview. You are the Cash Flow Chronicles.
Thank you so much for having me on last week.
[00:02:56] Jonathan Cattani:
Hey, thanks for coming on. I really enjoyed it and I know my listeners are gonna be excited when it airs.
[00:03:01] Jay Conner:
Awesome. This show is raising private money we’re gonna talk about raising private money. You’ve raised hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars in private money.
And we’ll talk about that first. And then after that, I want us to move into this unique investment strategy that I never heard of in my. and my best guess is since I’ve been around the block a few decades, my listeners may not have ever heard of this investment strategy that you call my lens asymmetrical returns.
[00:03:34] Jay Conner:
That’s warp. That’s like warping my brain. I don’t even know if asymmetrical returns are a good thing or not, but we’re getting ready to find out. Let’s talk about private money first. So what kind of deals are you doing that you’re raising private money for?
[00:03:48] Jonathan Cattani:
Yeah. So the deal most recently is actually a very unique deal in that it was, it’s still commercial, but it’s not your typical multi-family.
[00:03:59] Jonathan Cattani:
That’s big sexy that everyone’s for Also self-storage, mobile home parks. This was actually or is the number one private short-term rental portfolio. Available to investors. So a very unique deal. Very a unique opportunity. What they did was take short-term rentals and create a commercial product, right?
[00:04:24] Jonathan Cattani: So essentially buying residential real estate in top markets and turning them into short-term rentals, which then are traded on a cap rate and therefore become a commercial product. You’re es essentially what we did was we created a fund and raised money in that fund, and then that fund was a single investor into this short-term rental portfolio.
[00:04:49] Jonathan Cattani:
There are 70 short-term rentals in there already a full year of operation. Like I said, top operator top. Operator in the space and because of how much money we raised, we’re able to negotiate a little bit better return economics and return profile for our investors. So really appealing and a really awesome deal that we are very excited about.
[00:05:08] Jay Conner:
Johnny, regardless of the type of deal that a real estate investor or entrepreneur would raise money for, whether it’s single-family houses, which is what I primarily do, or it’s a commercial deal, apartments or, it’s a very unique project like you have going on when it comes to raising private money.
[00:05:27] Jay Conner:
It’s all the same money. Yep. It’s all the same money. It’s like Absolut. It’s individuals like we’re raising money from individuals. So first of all, let’s make this really clear to our listeners. When we talk about raising private money, we’re not talking about going to a commercial lender or a bank or a hard money lender.
[00:05:46] Jay Conner:
By the way, I got a lot of great friends that are hard money brokers, and I say, put together as many relationships as you. Because the more relationships you have, the larger your network, therefore equally the larger your net worth. But what we’re talking about here on private money is raising money from individuals.
[00:06:08] Jay Conner:
So the same money gets from individuals. And what these individuals, these individual private lenders are doing are they’re investing their money either from their liquid investment money, their list liquid investment capital. And or they may be investing retirement funds that they have moved over to what we call a self-directed ira.
[00:06:32] Jay Conner:
So would that be in the case of this particular project that you’ve been raising private money for? Two questions. First of all, since it’s all the same private money, my guess is Johnny, you find your private lenders in many of the same places that I find my private lenders. So I want us to talk about that.
[00:06:50] Jay Conner:
Where do you find your private lenders, human beings like you and me, to invest in your projects? And then the next follow-up question to that will be what is it about your project that really gives your investors a sense of security? to where they don’t like weigh asleep at night tossing and turning in their bed that they’re gonna lose.
[00:07:13] Jay Conner:
Their investment with you. But back to the first question, I know where I find my private lenders for my projects. Where do you find your private lenders?
[00:07:22] Jonathan Cattani:
Yeah, great question. Really simple. It is fascinating. Once you get into the industry and, or you start honing in on private money and realize, You have a, I shouldn’t say access.
[00:07:36] Jonathan Cattani:
Your network has money, right? So very early on when I got into the industry, I recognized right in my close network how much money I had access to. Now, as I’m sure we’ll get into, and as people have learned from your podcast, Being, seeing how much money is available in your network, in your close network as mine was, and actually getting access to that of two very different things.
[00:08:01] Jonathan Cattani:
When you really sit down and look at friends and family, really is where I started, you start to realize that, depending on what age you’re at, luckily I’m at the age now where I’m starting to have some high net. , friends, family high-income earners.
[00:08:16] Jonathan Cattani:
And due to that, I was able to access that money with a really good investment.
[00:08:21] Jay Conner:
You start out with family, and friends some people would call it private money. Relationship money. Yep. And it really is relationship money. The private money can be coming from people that you already have a relationship.
[00:08:34] Jay Conner:
but then I practice and teach all the time. Sometimes our new real estate investor Johnny will say to me all my people are broke. My people don’t have any money. First of all, Johnny, I don’t believe ’em. Nope. I don’t believe ’em. What I hear them saying is I’m not comfortable talking about private money.
[00:08:51] Jay Conner:
I don’t really know what to say. I don’t know how to approach it. A potential private lender. So in addition to our own network of family, friends, and relationships, I practice and teach. I say, go to your expanded market, and they say what in the world’s an expanded market? Expand your network, right?
[00:09:11] Jay Conner:
A lot of it for me becomes. Becoming involved in the local community, getting involved, where do you go to church? Are you involved in the Civic Club? Are you in the Rotary Club? Are you involved in the Chamber of Commerce? So, are you involved in a networking group? I’ll tell you Johnny Business Networking International b and I joined it way back in 2007, even before I started raising private money.
[00:09:35] Jay Conner:
That’s when I was a mortgage broker and a loan officer. , I tell you what, BNI, Business Networking International, and every community in town’s got one, has gotten me so much private money. , by just becoming involved in business, networking, international, and getting involved in these clubs and associations to where you are a servant.
[00:09:56] Jay Conner:
You go to these organizations volunteering. I volunteered to be the education coordinator in our local b and. as a result, I had five minutes every time we met once a week to give an educational point or training on how to be a better networker. As a result, I was, in the limelight for five minutes at every meeting.
[00:10:20] Jay Conner:
And so I was like the go-to person on how to like to be a really good networker and therefore my trust, my credibility was elevated and so I was able to raise hundreds and hundreds of thousands of. Just from being in the B and I network. As we say, growing your network equals growing your net worth.
[00:10:40] Jay Conner:
Now back to your project and the money that you have raised for the project, how is it that your private lenders, this is the second question that I already pitched to you. How is it that your private lenders? Lay awake at night worrying that their investment is a good one and a safe one. A secure one. A conservative investment.
[00:11:05] Jonathan Cattani:
Yeah, that’s a great question. It boils down to no and trust, right? The thing that you realize when you get into whatever industry, right? Whether you are, private money for residential, single family commercial. The return profiles are pretty similar amongst most deals happening, right?
[00:11:25] Jonathan Cattani:
If the operator’s good, underwriting is conservative all the points are checked the profile’s gonna be similar. Right Now, there may be a few differences here and there, maybe you’re gonna get a, depending on the asset, you may get your cash flow sooner. Maybe it’s a long-term deal, you’re not gonna get it for three years, whatever it may be.
[00:11:43] Jonathan Cattani:
But the metrics are gonna be similar. So really what it comes down to is it comes down you, do they trust you? Do they trust your process for vetting the deal? What is your process for vetting the deal, and being able to show them how? , detail-oriented you are in your vetting process, right?
[00:12:00] Jonathan Cattani:
How well do you know the operator? Have you been able to talk to them personally, right? Have you met them in person? Do they have a track record, right? Researching all of these things and then, how you meet them, right? One nice thing about being in the industry and one reason.
[00:12:18] Jonathan Cattani:
A lot of people have started to trust me because like you, I see constant deals, right? I probably see, I would say anywhere from, I would say probably two to three a day come into my inbox, and really the biggest difference is do I know this person or not? If I know them or they’ve been referred to me by someone I trust, then I will look at that deal.
[00:12:41] Jonathan Cattani:
If not, then honestly I’m probably not even gonna look at it. So it really comes down to. , my vetting process and my investors trusting me and knowing that I’m not gonna show them a deal, a that hasn’t been vetted thoroughly, and B, that I wouldn’t invest in myself. That’s the biggest thing, especially starting out, is if you’re gonna go to private lenders, private money, especially retail, individual investors.
[00:13:09] Jonathan Cattani:
so important that you are investing alongside them to give them that last little bit of confidence that you’re like, Hey, whether you invest or not, I’m still investing in this deal. That’s how much I like it.
[00:13:21] Jay Conner:
I’m visiting with my friend and guest Johnny Cattani and his conduct information is www.CattaniCapitalGroup.com.
[00:13:58] Jay Conner:
Johnny, let’s go ahead and give our listeners an amazing gift that will get them on the fast track to raising private money, never missing out on a deal, and having more money to use than you can actually put to work. I’m so excited. I just recently finished writing my private money guide, which is called Seven Reasons. Why private money will skyrocket your real estate business and help you build incredible wealth?
[00:14:18] Jay Conner:
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[00:14:48] Jay Conner:
Next question Johnny, we are in uncertain times. Our economy is in more or less chaos. Influx going on. The stock market has gone haywire. Mortgage rates have lost their mind. And no comment on the current administration. Putting all that aside, during economic uncertainty, how do you go about, whether is now a good time to raise capital?
[00:15:16] Jay Conner:
People are looking at what’s going on in the economy, and what’s going on in the market. Real estate prices are at an all sta at an all-time high. Is this a good time? What are your comments on raising capital in economic
[00:15:31] Jonathan Cattani:
Uncertainty? Yeah, that’s a great question. It’s now. , I think, here’s what I think now is an incredible time and I think over the next 12 to 18 months especially, we’re going to see more and more opportunities available.
[00:15:46] Jonathan Cattani:
Now, it’s not a big blanket uncertainty, right? Very market is dependent on this recession or downturn, whatever you want to call it. Apparently the. The definition of a recession is changing daily, so who really knows anymore? Speaking of the current administration, but I think that if you can, if a, if you can raise capital right now over the next, probably two to three years, then when the market takes back off again, it’s going to be far simpler.
[00:16:19] Jonathan Cattani:
I think right now is an incredible time to be looking at real estate. Just like you mentioned the stock market going haywire right now. It’s very important to know what you’re getting into, right? Don’t just go throw your money and not understand what you’re investing in. But when you look at data the commercial real estate as a whole and real estate, we’ll just say real estate as a whole is far more stable over.
[00:16:44] Jonathan Cattani:
A 20-year period than the stock market. So if you are looking for that stability, especially, as you alluded early on, in IRAs and retirement accounts, self-directed IRAs, self-directed 401ks, where you know as you get older, your risk profile drops, right? You don’t have nearly as much speculation in your portfolio.
[00:17:08] Jonathan Cattani:
What financial advisors try to tell you is, oh, let’s move you into some super safe mutual fund, with really slow growth over the next 20 years. And that’s great. I’m not knocking the stock market. I think that a portion of the portfolio should be involved there. I think, there are some good opportunities, however, when you’re really looking at a truly risk-adjusted investment.
[00:17:28] Jonathan Cattani:
Real estate is far more stable, and oh, by the way, it’s real. If you invest in an apartment complex with a top operator in the Midwest, you can literally fly there and go touch that apartment complex and see what you’ve invested in that mutual fund that your financial advisor advised you on. You can’t get that.
[00:17:50] Jonathan Cattani:
Mutual fund manager on the phone and have a personal conversation with him and understand what he’s like. You can do that in real estate. And so for me, what I’m trying to help people understand and educate them about is it’s okay as long as you have that long-term mindset. Real estate requires it’s okay that you can’t just log on and check your portfolio daily as you came to the stock market, and I think that’s where a lot of people get hung up because it gives ’em some sense of control when they can go and get a daily update of their portfolio.
[00:18:25] Jonathan Cattani:
But in reality, you’re not in control at all in real estate. There are far more controllable variables that allow you to really understand and make a really good investment.
[00:18:37] Jay Conner:
Johnny, I couldn’t agree with you more. It’s interesting since Covid on this side of Covid, I’ve had more private money chasing me than ever before, and I can tell you why that is.
[00:18:53] Jay Conner:
What’s tying in right now with the stock market, the volatility? people are scared. As you say, the older people get, the less time they’ve got to recover or their portfolio has got to recover in case of a downturn. In this world of private money, our private lenders know exactly what their return is going to be like.
[00:19:15] Jay Conner:
There’s nothing that comes out of the in. It’s like putting your money in a certificate of deposit at the bank, except instead of getting 0.9%, you’re getting a whole lot more money than that, and you don’t have to worry about the volatility of the value of your investment as in the stock market.
[00:19:34] Jay Conner:
Another thing, the reason I’ve got so much private money chasing me today, Johnny, is because prior to Covid, there was 18 trillion in cash that people had in their retirement accounts. Not knowing what to do with it. And today there’s 31 trillion with a T, 31 trillion in cash sitting on the sidelines. And people are looking for a place to put their investment capital, their retirement funds, that is safe, that is secure, that they don’t have to worry about losing that money.
[00:20:11] Jay Conner:
And your project is a great example. Of where they can invest those funds. So yes, today, this year is the best time for people to invest their money securely in real estate. As you said, real estate, even with this volatility from the long term, is so much safer than even say the stock market.
[00:20:35] Jay Conner:
Johnny, I want you to share yours. About your very first $150,000 that you raised in private capital. I remember just like yesterday, the very first private lender that came on with me and my wife, Carol Joy, was in February of 2009. I can remember where we were. I know where the conversation took place. I know what the conversation was.
[00:21:03] Jay Conner:
I can’t wait to hear yours. about your first private lender?
[00:21:08] Jonathan Cattani:
Yeah, so mine was a scratch and as, and as I imagine most people for their first-ever raise, right? When you’re going get money outside of your own, obviously outside of hard money, lenders, banks, blah, blah, blah, right? We’re talking about private lenders.
[00:21:24] Jonathan Cattani:
It was a scratch and a claw. Now, it was funny because I started with, going to of course, friends and family, right? And go to my dad. And my dad is an old farm boy from Idaho. He’s 60, gosh, I’m, let’s see, he’s 64 and, didn’t really focus on retirement until probably about 10, 12 years ago.
[00:21:49] Jonathan Cattani:
They finally started, getting a 401k with his employer and all of that. He’s behind, needless to say. And so in my head, I’m like, oh, this is a perfect opportunity. I would, I’m gonna present this opportunity to him because I want him to understand the power that real estate can bring to you, especially as you are moving towards retirement in terms of, like we mentioned, stability.
[00:22:09] Jonathan Cattani:
I know, Obviously. , depending on the deal, there can be cash flow, which you can, the more you invest, obviously the more cash flow you can get to. Even getting to the point of, being financially free most people clarify, call that basically having all of their expenses paid for from passive cash flow.
[00:22:25] Jonathan Cattani:
So I’m like, sweet, I’m gonna go pitch this to him. Set him up on it. And he was interested, he was like, okay, yeah, you’re right. I haven’t been doing the best in terms. Of setting myself up in retirement. So I’m talking to him and he’s on the fence, but because the deal was such a good deal, he was like my financial advisor, his actual financial advisor was like, was also interested in getting into real estate and being a passive investor in real estate.
[00:22:56] Jonathan Cattani:
So he is you know what? Go talk to ed and. Go pitch it to Ed and let’s see. Literally, go pitch it to his financial advisor. His financial advisor and his financial advisor’s partner both decide to invest because of that. Of course, then my dad and stepmom got on board and invested. So it was a very weird scenario where typically you wouldn’t.
[00:23:19] Jonathan Cattani:
Typically you’re getting your close friends and family first, and then the, plus one, and the degrees of separation start to fall in. Whereas this was a unique scenario in that I actually had to go one degree away to a financial advisor who typically advises into the stock market.
[00:23:36] Jonathan Cattani:
Now, as luck would have it, he’s a registered advisor so he can. On alternative assets. So it actually worked out very serendipitously and low and behold, of course now they’re invested and it’s, starting to present some good partnership opportunities for more deals down the road.
[00:23:54] Jonathan Cattani:
But man, you wanna talk about sweating and staying up at night? I was. I was worried for sure. And of course, the money didn’t come till the 11th hour, which, makes it even that much more stressful. But we made it through and it’s an incredible story and one I will continue to tell, and I’m sure in 10 years it’ll feel like it just happened yesterday.
[00:24:17] Jay Conner:
Johnny, when I was a guest on your podcast, do you remember us talking about this? When in the world is the worst time to be raising private money?
[00:24:26] Jonathan Cattani:
And I had to learn that the hard way.
[00:24:28] Jay Conner:
Of course, just in case our listeners missed the point. The worst time to be raising private money is when you need it.
[00:24:35] Jonathan Cattani:
Yeah. And do not let it. Do not let the fact that it’s your friends and family, and especially close friends and family when you’re first starting out, fool you into thinking that you can go in the 11th hour and get money from them because I promise you that is not the case, In fact, I might even argue that it’s more challenging from your close friends and family, which of course, why not everyone does this and what makes it so hard to get going.
[00:24:59] Jonathan Cattani:
But yes, learn from my mistake. Do not raise private money when you need it. Be always raising. And that’s a valuable lesson that I learned there.
[00:25:08] Jay Conner:
Yeah. And that’s why I preach in practice, the money comes first. Yes. There are always gonna be deals. There are always gonna be deals. And just think how much more confident you are when you’ve got money burning a hole in your pocket.
[00:25:24] Jay Conner:
And I never made a, I never bought a property I never made an offer on. How much more confident we are in making offers when we know we’ve got the funding? I’ve got friends that teach, oh, go get the deal under contract. Go get the deal under contract, the money will show up.
[00:25:40] Jay Conner:
Yeah. And I wanna say, Where? Yeah. Where’s the money going? Is it like gonna rain out of the cloud or whatever? What’s really funny about your story Johnny, is your first private lender was a financial advisor.
[00:25:59] Jay Conner:
Financial advisors, 99.9% of ’em. And by the way, I got great friends that are financial advisors, much smarter than I am. They’re the guys that made straight A’s in college. Yes, I made Cs and Ds and barely got out. But anyway one of my very first private lenders, Was with Fannie Mae for 30 years.
[00:26:20] Jay Conner:
Wow. Fannie Mae. And you know what’s funny about that is the people in the financial realm that are professionals, they never heard of self-directed IRAs and P and being able to move retirement funds over to an IRS-approved third-party custodian, that these people can then invest with us and lend money.
[00:26:40] Jay Conner:
The reason they never heard. It’s because there’s no money in it for them. , right? It’s like there are no commissions, there’s no, that’s a whole different world of where people can move retirement funds in order to invest. So, Johnny, we have kept our audience listening from the beginning, waiting to hear what in the world is.
[00:27:05] Jay Conner:
Asymmetrical returns. This investment strategy you call asymmetrical returns. Pull the curtain back and tell us what in the world is that.
[00:27:14] Jonathan Cattani:
All right, first I gotta give a shout-out. This is not my original idea. I gotta give a shout-out to my mentor, Hunter Thompson, who but essentially asymmetrical.
[00:27:24] Jonathan Cattani:
Obviously, we know what symmetrical means, right? Same on both sides. Asymmetrical just means there’s a higher, in this case, an asymmetrical return means that the upside is a lot higher than the downside. So by. again, coming full circle, vetting and understanding the deal and why the downside is so low and the upside is so high.
[00:27:50] Jonathan Cattani:
The easy points here are, how is the debt structured, right? And that’s for all real estate, whether it’s commercial, residential, or whatever you’re doing right? Good debt. So important. Do not want to be over-leveraged, especially. Now as we head forward, a lot of these opportunities that are gonna present themselves are going to be because of bad debt distressed debt on some of these deals.
[00:28:12] Jonathan Cattani:
So essentially what you’re doing is you are just taking the return profile and making it higher than the downside risk, and you have an asymmetrical.
[00:28:23] Jay Conner:
Wow. I thought it was gonna be so much more of a mystery than that. I know, right?
[00:28:27] Jonathan Cattani:
That’s the best part about it, it’s everyone’s like, Ooh, asymmetrical.
[00:28:31] Jonathan Cattani:
What does that mean? You’re just like,
[00:28:32] Jay Conner:
You know what’s good about it is I actually understood it.
[00:28:35] Jonathan Cattani:
Correct. That’s awesome. I knew you would. I knew you would. Oh,
[00:28:38] Jay Conner:
Mercy. So if you are listening to this show right now either live or on our podcast on iTunes, Spotify, et cetera, and you’re looking for some really significant returns and doing business with somebody that knows what they’re doing, that has vetted out the deals.
[00:28:56] Jay Conner:
You’re interested in real estate, but you’re really not interested in negotiating deals. If you’d like to get a high rate of return safely and sit back and just be totally passive, then I recommend you reach out to my friend Johnny Cattani. You can reach him at his website, www.CattaniCapitalGroup.com.
[00:29:25] Jonathan Cattani:
Jay, thank you so much for having me on. It’s been an incredible experience. I look forward to hopefully being able to add some more value as we go to your listeners, and I’m very grateful to all those who listen. And shameless plug I do have, a free e-book that you can download.
[00:29:45] Jonathan Cattani:
It’s “Is Commercial Real Estate Real Estate Recession Proof?” A lot of really awesome data points in there. Even more, info than I gave today. You can find that at www.InvestWithCattani.com
[00:29:58] Jay Conner:
www.InvestWithCattani.com And one more time, what’s the name of that book?
[00:30:02] Jonathan Cattani:
“Is Commercial Real Estate Real Estate Recession Proof?”
[00:30:04] Jay Conner:
“Is Commercial Real Estate Real Estate Recession Proof?” I love it. Thank you so much, Johnny, for offering up that free gift to our audience.
[00:30:13] Jonathan Cattani:
Absolutely. Thanks for having me.
[00:30:16] Jay Conner:
God bless you, Johnny. There you have it, my friend. Another episode of Raising Private Money. I’m Jay Conner, The Private Money Authority, and if you found this episode valuable, do me a favor. We really appreciate the likes, and the shares subscribed. If you’re listening on iTunes, be sure and tap follow. And if you’re watching on YouTube, tap click that bell. Make sure you don’t miss out on any upcoming episodes as well, and share this episode with a friend or colleague, or family member of yours.
[00:30:49] Jay Conner:
That you think would benefit as well. Thank you so much for joining Raising Private Money. I’m Jay Connor, wishing you all the best. Here’s the taking your business to the next level, and we’ll see you right here on the next Raising Private Money.
[00:31:07] Narrator:
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